Curse

Mormegil · Jul 14, 2005, 08:26 PM // 20:26

**** SPOILERS INSIDE****

Well, well..I always had the impression something was wrong with Guild Wars. After killing the Charrs I had to kill the Stone Summit, then I had to kill Undead hordes, then my ex-White Mantle friends, then the Shining Blade traitor and the Mursaats.

Suddenly a guy called Vizier Khilbron appears from nowhere (almost) and becomes your closest ally. He's very fond of Zombies, Liches, Banshees, Ghouls, corruption of the flesh, plague and diseases in general but hey, you can't judge friends from their appearance, can you? Eventually, he'll reveal himself as the last boss, a kickass Lich with a low and raspy voice who wants to conquer the world using 5-6 Lvl24 Titans (each for region). Apparently, the Undead Lich is no general Eisenhower, because if 8 people can kill dozens of Titans in the last quest, you'd think more than 6 are required to rule the world.

I love this game but it probably has the worst storyline since Pokemon. I'm not a plot freak but a little more effort would've been highly appreciated.

For example, one horrible part of the game is undoubtedly the dialogue between the Seer and your group.

"I'm the Seer, I came here to help you"

"Where are you from again?"

"From far far away, but what's important is that I'm gonna help you."

"Heh. Nice. I'm listening"

"The Mursaats are bad and will beat the holy crap out of you if you're not infused."

"Yeah? So what?"

"So kill a sort of Ghost Squid in that cavern 50 mts away from here, bring me his remains and I'll infuse you."

"Okey dokey"

Well, maybe I simplified a bit, but that's about it.

Do some of you agree with me? No one expected a J.R.R.Tolkien work but at least something decent. This is no rant, just a curiosity...are you satisfied with Guild Wars story?

Armada Hunter · Jul 14, 2005, 09:20 PM // 21:20

I don't mind it...It sure could be better though.

Cymmina · Jul 14, 2005, 09:42 PM // 21:42

I want to know how the White Mantle somehow aquire the Chosen that I just saved in the previous mission to sacrifice in Bloodstone Fen. That makes absolutely no sense to me.

If you read the lore found in the manual, Vizier Khilbron is the guy who destroyed Orr by using some forbidden text to stop the Charr from overrunning the country.

dargon · Jul 15, 2005, 12:04 AM // 00:04

Uhmm, the White Mantle got them when you brought them to that town along with the eye. You handed them over to them, it's all your fault they're dead

Niare · Jul 15, 2005, 12:21 AM // 00:21

Well, you know...at least the game has a story? I mean, don't EQ or WoW don't have storylines at all? Of course, I've never played them, so I wouldn't know

EverBlue · Jul 15, 2005, 12:32 AM // 00:32

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Originally Posted by Cymmina

I want to know how the White Mantle somehow aquire the Chosen that I just saved in the previous mission to sacrifice in Bloodstone Fen. That makes absolutely no sense to me.

If you read the lore found in the manual, Vizier Khilbron is the guy who destroyed Orr by using some forbidden text to stop the Charr from overrunning the country.

If you look at all the Chosen wrapped in sticky spider goo, you'll realize that only one is still alive. The chosen you see in Bloodstone Fen are a second group that the Mantle brings.

And the storyline was good. I liked it.. I mean, I'd like the name of the game to actually mean something. It seems like we missed all the fun of the big GUILD WARS. We need a massive group of guilds rushing across the blasted lands of Ascalon to beat eachother to a bloody pulp.

Silmor · Jul 15, 2005, 12:45 AM // 00:45

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It seems like we missed all the fun of the big GUILD WARS.

Hmm, that got me thinking for a moment... what if the expansion involves going back in time? I sure wouldn't mind playing the Charr race (*hope hope*) as they invade from the north, causing the destruction of Orr, forcing Ascalon to build the wall, etc. The Guild Wars themselves didn't sound too appealing, a little too generic. Would knowing how the story is going to unfold detract from the enjoyment?

suzumebachi · Jul 15, 2005, 04:13 AM // 04:13

SPOILERS BELOW

what i want to know is: what the hell happens to ascalon? you never close that chapter. the charr are still on the brink of invasion, rurik is dead, and last we checked adelbern was still a stubborn asshole.

the dwarves get some closure. they retake thunderhead keep, and kill the summit leader. the krytans are freed from the tyranny of the white mantle, and assuming with the death of the lich they are freed from the undead hordes as well.

but nothing for ascalon... there should be at least one final mission or something where you and 7 other guys take on the entire charr army and tear them to pieces. or maybe you use the focus of the gods to put an end to all the flame keepers etc. whatever. at least something.. you know?

Ultimate_Gaara · Jul 15, 2005, 04:24 AM // 04:24

With luck they will pick up where they left off in the next one.. i agree that the story was a little.. um.. well it was fine, but i did not like the ending.. kinda made me feel like "i did all that work for this?"

ive always wanted to see ascalon rebuilt, i very much dislike the searing version, its too depressing... its true a lot of shoes were left untied, but maybe they wanted it that way to leave you on the edge of your seat for the next exciting episode of guild wars!

EverBlue · Jul 15, 2005, 04:25 AM // 04:25

Psh. YOU dislike the Searing Version?

When I first got this game, I made a ranger. I then dyed him green to blend in with Ascalon so I could be a sneaky ranger.. Then I went post-searing. You cannot imagine how frustrated I was, a green ranger, running through this brown.. Destroyed.. Place.

KonohaFlash · Jul 15, 2005, 05:18 AM // 05:18

yeah the storyline was kinda silly and easily predictable. not to boast but i knew that the guy who destroyed orr using the staff would become the final boss the moment i read the thing from the manual. every bit of the story is cliched and has been rehashed rpg after rpg after rpg

Forboding Angel · Jul 15, 2005, 05:23 AM // 05:23

Hey actually a lot of the story is vague but you have to listen real well to pick up some things

First of all. In case you all don't know already, khilbron was the king of orr's personal adviser. He was also the reason that orr was destroyed (use of black magic to keep the charr out).

If you pay attention to the cutscenes he is mentioned several times. The people of kryta do not know that he was the cause of the destruction of orr (considering that almost no one survived and the ones that did had no clue what happened) and when he offers to help using the scepter of orr of course they are very happy about it considering that the shining blade is fighting an uphill battle.

Another thing you should know. The shining blade cannot litterally see the mursaat. Only the chosen can. Remember the line "the white mantle and their unseen gods"? The unseen gods are the mursaat obviously. Because we are chosen we can see the mursaat clearly which is exactly why the chosen are a threat to the mursaat. The chosen (all those people you tried to rescue) can see the mursaat and you can imagine why the mursaat do not want this.

Vizer khilbron was corrupt from the beginning, when the scepter resurfaced he saw a chance to rule tyria. He had a big problem tho. The white mantle and the mursaat. Only when the scepter came into his possession did he become uber powerful. He had a lot of good reasons to help the chosen. They could do what him and an entire race of seer's could not do, and that is destroy the mursaat.

Once the mursaat were wiped out khilbron had nothing to worry about. The scepter and the door of komalie (which btw is a gateway to hell or the equivalent in gw). Glint was very correct when it said that the door of komalie had the power to destroy good, evil, or both. The problem here is that how is one supposed to control near unlimited power? Well thanks to the scepter of orr, khilbron was powerful enough to control it.

Remember when he summoned the titan? He didn't know if he would be able to control them or not and was delighted when it worked. The flameseeker prophecies fortold of that but how is one truely to know for sure except try?

After Khilbron summoned the titan and realized his true power, that's when shit started going downhill for everyone else because he also had control of the 3 portals to ascalon, kryta, and the crystal desert. With this kind of power as all men eventually do he got RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOy, and when the chosen showed up to put him down he could not have cared less. He had plenty of things inbetween him and the chosen, not to mention rurik.

Well, we know how the story ends don't we?

Ashley Twig · Jul 15, 2005, 05:36 AM // 05:36

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Originally Posted by dargon

Uhmm, the White Mantle got them when you brought them to that town along with the eye. You handed them over to them, it's all your fault they're dead

Only, if you do the bonus.

MCS · Jul 15, 2005, 05:46 AM // 05:46

Well as for storylines not being finished can you say expansion :O.

There probably won't be a d3 because they completely and utterly closed that storyline.

Theres no OMFG I JUST PWNED THE DEVIL LETS JAM THE STONE I IMPRISONED HIM IN INTO MY FOREHEAD! BRILLIANT!

We just slaughter all 3 of them there is no coming back.

But uh yeah the storyline is pretty korny, what can ya do though.

It's not THAT bad.

The lame thing I thought was like you LEAD the eye that picks out chosen and yet it somehow misses you, some say it's because you took a dip in the fountain but it's like bleh...

They'll probably do some stuff involving the seers race in the future.

Jwh6913 · Jul 15, 2005, 05:55 AM // 05:55

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Originally Posted by MCS

Well as for storylines not being finished can you say expansion :O.

There probably won't be a d3 because they completely and utterly closed that storyline.

Theres no OMFG I JUST PWNED THE DEVIL LETS JAM THE STONE I IMPRISONED HIM IN INTO MY FOREHEAD! BRILLIANT!

We just slaughter all 3 of them there is no coming back.

.

uh

meaning not to drag this topic off topic, but storyline wise, there's the world to explore after the stone blew up with help of an certain angel. Noone knew what would happen if it blew up

back to GW

the story will slowly be revealed to us via expansions, and eventually there'll be a stop to the expansions since there;s gonna be 'too much pve' for the pvpers that care only about HOH or even

GVG and gonna whine about that.

EverBlue · Jul 15, 2005, 06:01 AM // 06:01

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Originally Posted by Ashley Twig

Only, if you do the bonus.

Not quite. There are also a number of Chosen in the village you head to anyways. So either way you're killing Chosen.

And as for the Diablo comment, there's plenty of storyline now that the Worldstone is destroyed. If you didn't listen to Tyrael, he explained that with the Worldstone destroyed, the world was at the mercy of Hell and its minions. Sounds to me like some sort of.. World of Diablo MMO crap.

Divinus · Jul 15, 2005, 06:19 AM // 06:19

I'm pretty sure they're going to lean more toward Ascalon's storyline in the expansions.

I thought the storyline was all right, could've been much better. Could've been worse, though.

I can't wait to fight level 20-ish Charr, though. That's gonna be bad ass.

Lost · Jul 15, 2005, 06:26 AM // 06:26

I love the battle at Thunderhead Keep. Instead of the Mursaat forming one large group of 50 and pound the hapless 8 adventurers to death, they decide to stroll in 1 or 2 at a time. Hey, no need to rush now is there?

DrSLUGFly · Jul 15, 2005, 11:44 AM // 11:44

i agree 100%! Although they may be doing wonders for the technological advancement of games with GW they (from my perspective) have done little to nothing for the artistic advancement of games...

My biggest gripe (the story is a pretty good one) is the horrible acting and the tacked on music (not sure if the dialogue script should go in with flaming the story or the acting.)

Sleazy_D · Jul 15, 2005, 01:29 PM // 13:29

Well, if you're going for plot holes, then how about: How can the sceptor of Orr be used to rule Tyria when its only power is a 1 > increase in Energy regen? Gimme 2 necros, and some boddies, and I'll show you power!

Lack of lips moving in cinimatics also sucks.